Gross inactivity

Philip Edginton · Post by **Philip Edginton** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:18 am

I have only been a member of the BDC for a couple of years now and I have to admit that I am flummoxed that there is so little activity on this forum.I have asked a couple of questions and also read many other enquiries that have had no replies.
What a complete difference to the RR forums who willingly give as much help and info very quickly.
This must also be the first post on here for at least 4 weeks now.
I have to admit that I am extremely disappointed and am not sure that I wish to remain a member.
Maybe there is another Bentley club that do not put social activities above all else.

Nicholas Simons · Post by **Nicholas Simons** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:16 am

Philip
My thoughts exactly. I am a member of the RREC and am a regular user of the forum, particularly for pre-war technical queries. I have been a member of the BDC for less than a year and am not very impressed by the members' use of this forum. I am a member of the BDC East Midlands Section and have yet to receive a welcome message from them. We have gone to quite a few Midlands Section lunches but getting to know people is a real uphill struggle, unlike the very friendly RREC. We've booked to go on a BDC tour so I'll be making my mind up about remaining a BDC member after that.

Charles Skinner · Post by **Charles Skinner** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:10 pm

Yes, I too agree totally. RREC beckons. Charles

Christopher Carnley · Post by **Christopher Carnley** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:13 pm

General apathy, when you post something, nobody responds.

I can remember telling Laurie Fox that it was a dead duck.

John Murch · Post by **John Murch** » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:25 am

It seems to me that the lack of response is usually in respect of topics relating to the more modern cars, questions on pre pre T type usual get replies.

Christopher Carnley · Post by **Christopher Carnley** » Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:24 pm

Then no one responds.

The RREC is in a mess at the moment, with undemocratic, peevish, and spiteful activities.

Post by **Paul Spencer** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:12 pm

I have never seen the forum used as little as it is at the moment. I think this is to some extent due to the technical changes. From my point of view as as Android tablet user, it is harder to log in than it was and many of the features have stopped working. It's a shame as I used to log in every day and there was usually something worth reading or contributing to.

John Robins · Post by **John Robins** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:07 am

I had been waiting to see if it went for a whole month before launching a similar observation.

For a club with so many members the situation on the forum really is a joke, and since the way of further expansion could be via this chat, I cannot understand the apathy shown by headquarters.

John Robins · Post by **John Robins** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:13 am

Further thought after the usual error message when trying to post.

If the technicalities involved were not so graphic a demonstration of total ineptitude, maybe more folk would be tempted to post.

Cheers, John

John Murch · Post by **John Murch** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:00 am

It is a great shame that the club office does not monitor the forum (I was advised by a staff member that they do not), recent postings show that some new members are unhappy and will doubtless not renew.

Nicholas Simons · Post by **Nicholas Simons** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:21 am

I have spoken to Nick Wilkes who is going to take action with the Forum supplier to rectify the fault.
With respect to the lack of activity on the Forum, we have only the members to blame. How can we improve the situation?

I am disappointed with the content of the Review. There is very little, if any, technical writing such as description of cars and restoration. Maybe BDC stands for Bentley Dining Club? Of course, as with the Forum, the editor can only print what he is sent.

John Robins · Post by **John Robins** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:33 am

Is that so?

Go to the welcome page, look at what it says, and find any mention on that page that the club has a forum.

Cheers, John

Nicholas Simons · Post by **Nicholas Simons** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:38 am

John
It appears on the Member Benefits page.

John Robins · Post by **John Robins** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:16 pm

I know that, my point is, how many prospective users of the forum know it?

It’s as if the club is ashamed to have a forum, isn’t it?

Most things in which I have some involvement direct prospective signers-up to their forum pages in an easy to spot manner.

Martin Webster · Post by **Martin Webster** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:08 pm

I think interest in the forum started to deteriorate when the not so bright idea of changing the format occurred a couple of years ago. Up until then it was a mine of information and of course, Laurie Fox input at all levels elevated it to an important technical resource for all models. A great shame we have come to this.

John Robins · Post by **John Robins** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:05 pm

Looks like the paralysis has set in again.

Christopher Carnley · Post by **Christopher Carnley** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:44 pm

I have this old decorated pot to remind me.

"Wouldn't your life be very flat,
With nothing whatever,
To grumble at"?

Philip Edginton · Post by **Philip Edginton** » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:20 am

Would you like to post a photo of that very interesting POT.
again I was told that an error occurred unable to post etc.

Charles Skinner · Post by **Charles Skinner** » Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:00 pm

Have now spent a few hours perusing RREC fora and found there to be considerably more gen. and advice than BDC's, although I stress that I have found the latter's helpful over the four years since I joined. I am interested only in technical support and not social events, having more than enough in my diary already. Each to their own....Charles

Ron Warmington · Post by **Ron Warmington** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:04 pm

Hi chaps... sorry I’ve been absent from the Forum for so long. I’m deeply concerned at the comments I’ve read here. But I don’t think there are too many technical issues. Are there? I went straight into the Forum and didn’t even have to put in an ID and Password. The design requirement is that, once a Member has signed into the BDC Website, one click should be all it needs to get into the Forum. And all my devices remember my ID and Password so hopping in is easy peasy.

Ron Warmington · Post by **Ron Warmington** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:08 pm

Hi chaps... sorry I’ve been absent from the Forum for so long. I’m deeply concerned at the comments I’ve read here. But I don’t think there are too many technical issues. Are there? I went straight into the Forum and didn’t even have to put in an ID and Password. The design requirement is that, once a Member has signed into the BDC Website, one click should be all it needs to get into the Forum. And all my devices remember my ID and Password so hopping in is easy peasy.

Ron Warmington · Post by **Ron Warmington** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:12 pm

Hi chaps... sorry I’ve been absent from the Forum for so long. I’m deeply concerned at the comments I’ve read here. But I don’t think there are too many technical issues. Are there? I went straight into the Forum and didn’t even have to put in an ID and Password. The design requirement is that, once a Member has signed into the BDC Website, one click should be all it needs to get into the Forum. And all my devices remember my ID and Password so hopping in is easy peasy.

That said, as I tried to post THIS item, I received a message saying that I’m not allowed to post a new item so soon after one I’ve just uploaded. I suppose that’s to stop hackers trying to create a ‘Denial of Service’ attack by sending in thousands of messages in order to crash a website.

Ron Warmington · Post by **Ron Warmington** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:21 pm

Hi chaps... sorry I’ve been absent from the Forum for so long. I’m deeply concerned at the comments I’ve read here. But I don’t think there are too many technical issues. Are there? I went straight into the Forum and didn’t even have to put in an ID and Password. The design requirement is that, once a Member has signed into the BDC Website, one click should be all it needs to get into the Forum. And all my devices remember my ID and Password so hopping in is easy peasy.

That said, as I tried to post THIS item, I received a message saying that I’m not allowed to post a new item so soon after one I’ve just uploaded. I suppose that’s to stop hackers trying to create a ‘Denial of Service’ attack by sending in thousands of messages in order to crash a website.

Ron Warmington · Post by **Ron Warmington** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:26 pm

Hi chaps... sorry I’ve been absent from the Forum for so long. I’m deeply concerned at the comments I’ve read here. But I don’t think there are too many technical issues. Are there? I went straight into the Forum and didn’t even have to put in an ID and Password. The design requirement is that, once a Member has signed into the BDC Website, one click should be all it needs to get into the Forum. And all my devices remember my ID and Password so hopping in is easy peasy.

That said, as I tried to post THIS item, I received a message saying that I’m not allowed to post a new item so soon after one I’ve just uploaded. I suppose that’s to stop hackers trying to create a ‘Denial of Service’ attack by sending in thousands of messages in order to crash a website.

Ron Warmington · Post by **Ron Warmington** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:30 pm

Hi chaps... sorry I’ve been absent from the Forum for so long. I’m deeply concerned at the comments I’ve read here. But I don’t think there are too many technical issues. Are there? I went straight into the Forum and didn’t even have to put in an ID and Password. The design requirement is that, once a Member has signed into the BDC Website, one click should be all it needs to get into the Forum. And all my devices remember my ID and Password so hopping in is easy peasy.

That said, as I tried to post THIS item, I received a message saying that I’m not allowed to post a new item so soon after one I’ve just uploaded. I suppose that’s to stop hackers trying to create a ‘Denial of Service’ attack by sending in thousands of messages in order to crash a website.

Ron Warmington · Post by **Ron Warmington** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:33 pm

Hi chaps... sorry I’ve been absent from the Forum for so long. I’m deeply concerned at the comments I’ve read here. But I don’t think there are too many technical issues. Are there? I went straight into the Forum and didn’t even have to put in an ID and Password. The design requirement is that, once a Member has signed into the BDC Website, one click should be all it needs to get into the Forum. And all my devices remember my ID and Password so hopping in is easy peasy.

That said, as I tried to post THIS item, I received a message saying that I’m not allowed to post a new item so soon after one I’ve just uploaded. I suppose that’s to stop hackers trying to create a ‘Denial of Service’ attack by sending in thousands of messages in order to crash a website.

Nicholas Simons · Post by **Nicholas Simons** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:49 pm

Hmmm! Interesting! Ron, you have posted the same message seven times, but I'm sure you didn't mean to. This clearly shows that the Forum is still not working correctly. I have complained about this to HQ, but still nothing is done.

Ron Warmington · Post by **Ron Warmington** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:02 pm

Hi chaps... sorry I’ve been absent from the Forum for so long. I’m deeply concerned at the comments I’ve read here. But I don’t think there are too many technical issues. Are there? I went straight into the Forum and didn’t even have to put in an ID and Password. The design requirement is that, once a Member has signed into the BDC Website, one click should be all it needs to get into the Forum. And all my devices remember my ID and Password so hopping in is easy peasy.

That said, as I tried to post THIS item, I received a message saying that I’m not allowed to post a new item so soon after one I’ve just uploaded. I suppose that’s to stop hackers trying to create a ‘Denial of Service’ attack by sending in thousands of messages in order to crash a website.

John Murch · Post by **John Murch** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:07 pm

I and no doubt others have learned that the error message which suggests your posting has been unsuccessful, can be ignored.
This has been advised to the club office by myself and others on a number of occasions.

John Robins · Post by **John Robins** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:49 am

Plus ça change??

John Robins · Post by **John Robins** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:55 am

Unless, perhaps, Ron is teasing us with a little joke!

Cheers,
John

Philip Edginton · Post by **Philip Edginton** » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:14 pm

Now that it has been decided to cancel all social meetings, a wise decision, can we expect the spare time gained be used to sort out the mess of a web site, with the Forum the main culprit.
One can only assume this comment will be read by those who should.They will have time on their hands after all.

John Murch · Post by **John Murch** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:27 am

I was advised when I last contacted the office regarding the error message when posting, that the office do not monitor the forum at all. In my view a mistake.

Philip Edginton · Post by **Philip Edginton** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:09 pm

Well I can only ask, what do they do in that office, especially now that all meetings etc are cancelled.

John Robins · Post by **John Robins** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:27 am

In the guff at the front of the club website is quoted the following factoid: -

“A club of almost 4,000 members.”

During my days working in the engineering industry in commercial departments I was generally in close contact with the estimators, a breed apart if ever there was one. A favourite comment on introduction of any suggested company cost price was “is that an estimate or a w-a-g?”

(w stands for wild, g stands for guess, put any suitable word in to replace the a)

A w-a-g on the quantity of respondents to this forum could be fewer than 100. (Well fewer.)

It seems from the above remarks to the forum from elsewhere that the powers that be think that this forum is well enough publicised, and easy enough to find, to those who are not regular contributors.

I don’t agree.

Cheers John

Nicholas Simons · Post by **Nicholas Simons** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:16 am

As I stated above, I spoke to Nick Wilkes almost a month ago and he promised to get the issue sorted, and now Ron Warmington has fallen foul of the issue big time, but still nothing is done. Do they care?

Post by **Paul Spencer** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:55 pm

I have reported many faults that have not been addressed. These include the login on Android devices and the fact that the indicator of new posts since last logging in does not work correctly. Personally I find it amazing that, as the administrator before this last set of changes, I was not even told that the change was happening, let alone being given a chance to test it. Currently, there is no active administrator.

Philip Edginton · Post by **Philip Edginton** » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:22 pm

Well not sure if it has any hidden meaning, but todays email from our esteemed Chairman went direct to my Junk folder, should I take that as a guide.
It did point out that the club is financially sound, we are all pleased to hear this.

Perhaps we all should email Richard Parkinson individually with our views and thoughts about the clubs web site and any other subject that stirs your thoughts.
Please include sensible ways of improving things, rather than just moan.

John Robins · Post by **John Robins** » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:41 pm

I have already made my suggestion to start the improvements Mr Edginton, and the seed did not germinate, so I’ll do it again: -

Place a clear and easily understandable one click direction to the Forum on the first page seen by anyone who Googles “Bentley Drivers Club”.

As I have said before, it is almost as if the Management is ashamed to be associated with such things.

Cheers
John

Philip Edginton · Post by **Philip Edginton** » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:17 am

Well in the present climate, there should be time to spend on this website/forum and not have to worry about slopping gravy off the fork.
Maybe I ask too much.

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